
On the latest episode of Unscripted, Dino and Delynn Rizzo sit down in Richmond, Virginia with two of ARC’s finest—Josh and Crystal Whitlow of Heights Church—for an honest, hilarious, and hope-filled conversation about what it really takes to plant and build a life-giving church.
From launching with 426 people (and dropping to 80 the next week) to raising babies while raising a church, to transforming a former CVS into a church-home and grocery store for those in need, Josh and Crystal share the real story—every miracle, meltdown, and moment of growth along the way.


You’ll hear about:
- Their wild church planting journey and how ARC gave them more than a playbook—it gave them lifelong friends.
- The power of generational faith and building a church with your whole family.
- Why they’re passionate about not just being a big church—but being a church with weight.
- The heart behind their new grocery experience that brings dignity and support to hundreds each week.
Whether you’re a pastor, planter, or just need encouragement to keep showing up—this episode will remind you that what you bring to the table matters deeply, you’re doing better than you realize, and the call is always worth it.